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    • #43894

      Hi all 🙂

      Been running R2 on my notebook for a few days now, mostly due to Hyper-v (which is freaking awesome btw)

      Have been noticing some problems however;

      Running a video on youtube.com for example, (not even HD quality) is taking up 50% of processor time 😕 making overall performance dreadful

      HD quality is even worse obviously, also maximizing flash windows is very laggy, and often does not work. Never had this problem whilst I was running Windows7 on this notebook.

      Sound is also a problem appearently, I ran the reg file offered on win2008R2workstation.com but it still seems problematic at times.

      Managed to get all drives except bluetooth running fine, so that shouldn’t be a problem.

      Running server 2008R2, firefox 3.5.4 (browser does not seem to matter, chrome gives the same behaviour)

      Any advice and/or hints are very welcome 🙂

    • #49945

      Just to make sure, are your video and audio drivers up-to-date?

    • #59764
      Anonymous

        Just to make sure, are your video and audio drivers up-to-date?

      • #49946

        Audio drivers came installed automatically, the video drivers I had to extract from Windows 7 (default drivers) , could that be the problem? That would be most troublesome 🙁

      • #59765
        Anonymous

          Audio drivers came installed automatically, the video drivers I had to extract from Windows 7 (default drivers) , could that be the problem? That would be most troublesome 🙁

        • #49947
          Arris
          Moderator

            Read [localurl=viewtopic.php?f=18&t=836:7jgicxba]this topic[/localurl:7jgicxba] about having performance problems after installing Hyper-V. I’m not sure if Microsoft fixed these problems in the R2 release, but at least you can uninstall it to see if it has any effect.

          • #59766
            Anonymous

              Read [localurl=viewtopic.php?f=18&t=836:7jgicxba]this topic[/localurl:7jgicxba] about having performance problems after installing Hyper-V. I’m not sure if Microsoft fixed these problems in the R2 release, but at least you can uninstall it to see if it has any effect.

            • #49948

              I don’t know anything about Hyper-V, so I can’t tell if Arris is right. Probably he is.

              But using default audio and (especially) video drivers is no good anyway, so even if disabling Hyper-V solves the issue (and especially if it doesn’t) I would strongly recommend to download and install the most recent drivers from the manufacturers’ websites.

              Note: Windows 2008 R2 uses drivers for Windows 7 x64.

            • #59767
              Anonymous

                I don’t know anything about Hyper-V, so I can’t tell if Arris is right. Probably he is.

                But using default audio and (especially) video drivers is no good anyway, so even if disabling Hyper-V solves the issue (and especially if it doesn’t) I would strongly recommend to download and install the most recent drivers from the manufacturers’ websites.

                Note: Windows 2008 R2 uses drivers for Windows 7 x64.

              • #49949

                flash is poopy on my system too. (R1 x64 sp2) I have a problem becuase some sites are like really garbled up!

                I have tried everything such as reinstalling flash and IE8 and no luck.

              • #59768
                Anonymous

                  flash is poopy on my system too. (R1 x64 sp2) I have a problem becuase some sites are like really garbled up!

                  I have tried everything such as reinstalling flash and IE8 and no luck.

                • #49950
                  Arris
                  Moderator

                    @RemixedCat wrote:

                    flash is poopy on my system too. (R1 x64 sp2) I have a problem becuase some sites are like really garbled up!

                    That’s weird. If I open the site you have open I get the following results in the different browser architectures: x86, x64 where the x86 executable is C:Program Files (x86)Internet Exploreriexplore.exe and the x64 executable is C:Program FilesInternet Exploreriexplore.exe. There isn’t a x64 flash player available yet (Adobe KB) so it makes sense that in x64 the website wants to install a new flash player.

                    I’m using the following Flash Add-on (Tools -> Manage Add-ons)

                    Name:                   Shockwave Flash Object
                    Publisher: Adobe Systems Incorporated
                    Type: ActiveX Control
                    Version: 10.0.32.18
                    File date:
                    Date last accessed: zaterdag 31 oktober 2009, 12:15
                    Class ID: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000}
                    Use count: 237
                    Block count: 0
                    File: Flash10c.ocx
                    Folder: C:WindowsSysWOW64MacromedFlash

                    In Firefox the website also just works fine so I expect your flash plugin is buggy, I don’t think this has anything to do with the browser because as far as I know an Add-on can be allowed or denied and not be limited by the browser.

                  • #59769
                    Anonymous

                      @RemixedCat wrote:

                      flash is poopy on my system too. (R1 x64 sp2) I have a problem becuase some sites are like really garbled up!

                      That’s weird. If I open the site you have open I get the following results in the different browser architectures: x86, x64 where the x86 executable is C:Program Files (x86)Internet Exploreriexplore.exe and the x64 executable is C:Program FilesInternet Exploreriexplore.exe. There isn’t a x64 flash player available yet (Adobe KB) so it makes sense that in x64 the website wants to install a new flash player.

                      I’m using the following Flash Add-on (Tools -> Manage Add-ons)

                      Name:                   Shockwave Flash Object
                      Publisher: Adobe Systems Incorporated
                      Type: ActiveX Control
                      Version: 10.0.32.18
                      File date:
                      Date last accessed: zaterdag 31 oktober 2009, 12:15
                      Class ID: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000}
                      Use count: 237
                      Block count: 0
                      File: Flash10c.ocx
                      Folder: C:WindowsSysWOW64MacromedFlash

                      In Firefox the website also just works fine so I expect your flash plugin is buggy, I don’t think this has anything to do with the browser because as far as I know an Add-on can be allowed or denied and not be limited by the browser.

                    • #49951

                      I also hate that everyone is just using flash as an HTML replacer!

                      it bloats browsers unneedingly high and people who cannot install flash (like work environments) (or netbook users)

                      All that page was was selecting the birthdate!? They coould have used a REGULAR PAGE for that! why does everyone think they HAVE to use flash. Just becuase it is “hip” or what. adobe just wants thier monopoly on the web. I never liked adobe. ever since they charge too much for photoshop and the majority of copies of PS in use are pirated! more then 60%!

                      I also see websites that use flash to simply display text. TEXT! must be alot of airhead devs out there that think they can only use flash for websites. Or some sorry old CEO person who thinks that “flash is hip with the younguns so lets use flash for the whole site so they think its “happenin”” kinda crap.

                      flash is so overused.

                      I want to be entertained by the game. I don’t need a flashy site to do that. Yes use good graphics for the site but they don’t need to be flash. I don’t want to have my cpu usage jump up to 50% when viewing your site.

                    • #59770
                      Anonymous

                        I also hate that everyone is just using flash as an HTML replacer!

                        it bloats browsers unneedingly high and people who cannot install flash (like work environments) (or netbook users)

                        All that page was was selecting the birthdate!? They coould have used a REGULAR PAGE for that! why does everyone think they HAVE to use flash. Just becuase it is “hip” or what. adobe just wants thier monopoly on the web. I never liked adobe. ever since they charge too much for photoshop and the majority of copies of PS in use are pirated! more then 60%!

                        I also see websites that use flash to simply display text. TEXT! must be alot of airhead devs out there that think they can only use flash for websites. Or some sorry old CEO person who thinks that “flash is hip with the younguns so lets use flash for the whole site so they think its “happenin”” kinda crap.

                        flash is so overused.

                        I want to be entertained by the game. I don’t need a flashy site to do that. Yes use good graphics for the site but they don’t need to be flash. I don’t want to have my cpu usage jump up to 50% when viewing your site.

                      • #49952

                        here’s my version info:
                        Name: Shockwave Flash Object
                        Publisher: Adobe Systems Incorporated
                        Type: ActiveX Control
                        Version: 10.0.22.87
                        File date:
                        Date last accessed: Today, October 31, 2009, 9 hours ago
                        Class ID: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000}
                        Use count: 31399
                        Block count: 0
                        File: Flash10b.ocx
                        Folder: C:WindowsSysWOW64MacromedFlash

                      • #59771
                        Anonymous

                          here’s my version info:
                          Name: Shockwave Flash Object
                          Publisher: Adobe Systems Incorporated
                          Type: ActiveX Control
                          Version: 10.0.22.87
                          File date:
                          Date last accessed: Today, October 31, 2009, 9 hours ago
                          Class ID: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000}
                          Use count: 31399
                          Block count: 0
                          File: Flash10b.ocx
                          Folder: C:WindowsSysWOW64MacromedFlash

                        • #49953

                          For watching 1080p Youtube videos I recommend using 64 bit Flash player. I found the CPU usage went down from 60%/20% to 50%/20%.

                        • #59772
                          Anonymous

                            For watching 1080p Youtube videos I recommend using 64 bit Flash player. I found the CPU usage went down from 60%/20% to 50%/20%.

                          • #49954

                            use ff4 b7 or ie9

                          • #59773
                            Anonymous

                              use ff4 b7 or ie9

                            • #49956

                              @michal wrote:

                              For watching 1080p Youtube videos I recommend using 64 bit Flash player. I found the CPU usage went down from 60%/20% to 50%/20%.

                              So, I’ve been having this issue where hulu/ flash works at “normal” resolution, but when I switch to full screen, I get really bad, blocky, pixelated, sometimes blurry portions of the screen. If I downsize to the tiny player, it looks fine. I suspect some kind of scaling issue? I have the latest driver (according to AMD’s autodetect) for my ATI HD4200 Radeon integrated mb graphics gpu and finally got the AMD ECC to work and disabled overscan/underscan (thanks to this board), but even using the latest FF with x64 flash player, the problem is the same. I have tried with IE (32/64) and GC (32) but all versions have the same issue. If I reboot back into XP32, the screen looks fine maximized and I don’t have these issues. I don’t even mind doing that, but if I could, it would be nice just use r2. Everything else I have tried seems to work fine (I followed the setup guide on this forum for server as workstation with r2).

                              Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

                            • #59775
                              Anonymous

                                @michal wrote:

                                For watching 1080p Youtube videos I recommend using 64 bit Flash player. I found the CPU usage went down from 60%/20% to 50%/20%.

                                So, I’ve been having this issue where hulu/ flash works at “normal” resolution, but when I switch to full screen, I get really bad, blocky, pixelated, sometimes blurry portions of the screen. If I downsize to the tiny player, it looks fine. I suspect some kind of scaling issue? I have the latest driver (according to AMD’s autodetect) for my ATI HD4200 Radeon integrated mb graphics gpu and finally got the AMD ECC to work and disabled overscan/underscan (thanks to this board), but even using the latest FF with x64 flash player, the problem is the same. I have tried with IE (32/64) and GC (32) but all versions have the same issue. If I reboot back into XP32, the screen looks fine maximized and I don’t have these issues. I don’t even mind doing that, but if I could, it would be nice just use r2. Everything else I have tried seems to work fine (I followed the setup guide on this forum for server as workstation with r2).

                                Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

                              • #49955

                                @Wyrmwood wrote:

                                @michal wrote:

                                For watching 1080p Youtube videos I recommend using 64 bit Flash player. I found the CPU usage went down from 60%/20% to 50%/20%.

                                So, I’ve been having this issue where hulu/ flash works at “normal” resolution, but when I switch to full screen, I get really bad, blocky, pixelated, sometimes blurry portions of the screen. If I downsize to the tiny player, it looks fine. I suspect some kind of scaling issue? I have the latest driver (according to AMD’s autodetect) for my ATI HD4200 Radeon integrated mb graphics gpu and finally got the AMD ECC to work and disabled overscan/underscan (thanks to this board), but even using the latest FF with x64 flash player, the problem is the same. I have tried with IE (32/64) and GC (32) but all versions have the same issue. If I reboot back into XP32, the screen looks fine maximized and I don’t have these issues. I don’t even mind doing that, but if I could, it would be nice just use r2. Everything else I have tried seems to work fine (I followed the setup guide on this forum for server as workstation with r2).

                                Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

                                Solution 1: Disable hardware acceleration on the video itself

                                Go back to your desired HULU video that you wish to watch… switch to full screen. Right-click in the middle of the video somewhere and choose Settings… After that uncheck “Enable hardware acceleration”. See if that helps.

                                Solution 2: Disable AMD Overdrive

                                Step 1. Open Catalyst Control Center

                                Step 2: Click Performance

                                Step 3: Click “AMD Overdrive”

                                Step 4: Uncheck “Enable Overdrive” option on top. Hit apply and close out.

                                Solution 3: Ditch AMD/ATI and their POS products

                                Try Solution #1 first, if that doesnt work try solution #2. If not, then hit yourself in the head and cry yourself at sleep saying “WHY DID I PURCHASE AN ATI PRODUCT?” Then you will dream of an overclocked GTX 590 and your life will be better. The end.

                              • #59774
                                Anonymous

                                  @Wyrmwood wrote:

                                  @michal wrote:

                                  For watching 1080p Youtube videos I recommend using 64 bit Flash player. I found the CPU usage went down from 60%/20% to 50%/20%.

                                  So, I’ve been having this issue where hulu/ flash works at “normal” resolution, but when I switch to full screen, I get really bad, blocky, pixelated, sometimes blurry portions of the screen. If I downsize to the tiny player, it looks fine. I suspect some kind of scaling issue? I have the latest driver (according to AMD’s autodetect) for my ATI HD4200 Radeon integrated mb graphics gpu and finally got the AMD ECC to work and disabled overscan/underscan (thanks to this board), but even using the latest FF with x64 flash player, the problem is the same. I have tried with IE (32/64) and GC (32) but all versions have the same issue. If I reboot back into XP32, the screen looks fine maximized and I don’t have these issues. I don’t even mind doing that, but if I could, it would be nice just use r2. Everything else I have tried seems to work fine (I followed the setup guide on this forum for server as workstation with r2).

                                  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

                                  Solution 1: Disable hardware acceleration on the video itself

                                  Go back to your desired HULU video that you wish to watch… switch to full screen. Right-click in the middle of the video somewhere and choose Settings… After that uncheck “Enable hardware acceleration”. See if that helps.

                                  Solution 2: Disable AMD Overdrive

                                  Step 1. Open Catalyst Control Center

                                  Step 2: Click Performance

                                  Step 3: Click “AMD Overdrive”

                                  Step 4: Uncheck “Enable Overdrive” option on top. Hit apply and close out.

                                  Solution 3: Ditch AMD/ATI and their POS products

                                  Try Solution #1 first, if that doesnt work try solution #2. If not, then hit yourself in the head and cry yourself at sleep saying “WHY DID I PURCHASE AN ATI PRODUCT?” Then you will dream of an overclocked GTX 590 and your life will be better. The end.

                                • #49957

                                  Thanks! Yeah, I can’t believe I did it, because I promised myself I would never buy another ati product years ago… guess I needed to be reminded why 🙂

                                • #59776
                                  Anonymous

                                    Thanks! Yeah, I can’t believe I did it, because I promised myself I would never buy another ati product years ago… guess I needed to be reminded why 🙂

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