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saw this hosted on both rapidshare and hotfile and they deleted them. Those two fileshare sites suck.
When you use windows system resource manager it’s all the more better! I have an article here on the boards I wrote detailing it. Find it and be amazed! I can control my browser bloat with it and never have to worry about page file bloat again! This is one of the many reasons I stick with server OSes. You can manage resources much better and be able to have more fine control over everything.
Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_System_Resource_Manager
My article: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=977
I also find that most applications people complain about that crash tons in windows vista or 7 that work much better on s2008. Like the game borderlands for example, it has not crashed once on me and I am at my third playthrough! Other people who have mixes betwen windows xp,vista and 7 are reporting so many crashes with the game!
I also notice PSCS4 works a little better then it did on vista and xp.
I think it might have something to do with the extremely unstable AudioVideo stack in consumer versions of windows that wreaks havoc with everything. It even causes most games to crash alot. I also notice that other people have way higher disk I/O reads in vista/7 then server 2008 R1/R2. My P/F delta was averaging 30,000 or more on xp and vista’s was about 25,000 and mine on s2008R1 is everaging under 8,000 when I am doing alot of multitasking and gaming. Server OSes are also built more stable becuase they need more reliable OSes for servers. Consumers can deal with more downtime, businesses can’t. they loose money if they do!
Also Graphics/Sound card drivers work alot better as well. To most people my nvidia 186.86 driver is alot more stable then people who have vista who get BSODs and game crashes and the driver resetting. same with the Creative drivers! To those who could not get them working and had to use the Daniel K driver I am running the official driver and it works smooth!
Look you would argue with me even if I said that southern hemisphere had thier seasons inverted. You would argue even if I told you that AMD bought ATI.
I am done with your childish arguments over what I PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED ON MY OWN COMPUTER!
You don’t live with me, so you don’t know what I go through.
I’ve been on this forum much much longer then you have.
I think you are just demeaning me becuase I am a woman and most arrogant males do this to females to make them feel bad.
This problem might not exist on windows 7 or R2 but it exsists on R1/Vista! it even happened on my laptop that recently kicked the bucket that had vista HP x64. (it was a HP I picked up for 300USD)
Look: you get the system_service_exception BSOD becuase a require service that needed to start up was NOT running. This was windows update. witch is ran at startup after you install updates.
since I had went to the services.msc control panel for the services for windows, I went to it to disable windows update service and set its startup type to “disabled”. I had this done about 2 week prior since it bugged me while I was doing graphics and messed me up a few times. so i did this to disable the nagging icon and baloon tip.
then reboot after applying this change. Then follow the steps below.
here’s the EXACT STEPS ONE VERY LAST TIME FOR YOU!:
I downloaded Ie8 setup from the MS site
I double cliked my install icon
I went through the first few steps
I accidentally left the option to “install updates” that it gives you as well as installing IE8.
I clicked next and proceeded to the install progress
I had to reboot my computer to complete the IE8 setup (since it requires it to run IE8-If you do not restart you can run IE7 till you do.
I clicked on the restart button
It was showing the green server 2008 pre shutdown screen while showing update progress
It rebooted
It went through the BIOS splash screen and POST messages
It went to the server 2008 animated bar with the black background
Then it BSODed and gave me the system_service_exception error!
It did this becuase the NEEDED WINDOWS UPDATE STARTUP SERVICE WAS NOT RUNNING BECASUE IT WAS DISABLED.
Thus it passed the exception error!
How hard is this to understand!
the freakin BSOD said system_service_exception! How many times do I ned to tell you what I saw with my own eyes! holy cow! You are basically telling me what I saw with my own eyes! How hillarious! You crack me up so hard JF!
You must be very very hard headed to not just agree with me and said I got the bsod and that there needs to be recovery options for those who cannot reformat. plain as that and stop whining about me being wrong when I am the one who experienced this problem.
were you at my house witnessing this event? Did you personally se my fit of frustration at having to reformat my hard drive to get my OS back up and running becuase I had a BSOD AFTER I REBOOTED AND BEFORE WINDOWS WAS FULLY STARTED UP.
You are the densest person I know of. I am not insulting you I am just sick of your assuming that I am dumb and did not exprience this problem just becuase you wasn’t there to witness it. google for system_service_exception BSOD vista and thers tons of people that had that from mixes of everything.
I might even cook up a VMware and replicate it. It is easily replicated.
You might have never gotten a system_service_exception BSOD so you don’t know 😈 :ugeek:
I have tons of experiences with computers you would only dream of.
I do very advanced stuff like architecture and 3d modelling, game development and have built over 300 systems from scratch. so don’t tell me what happens and what doesn’t happen 👿 👿
the problem I had was so obscure becuase most people don’t even bother to mess with the services.msc control panel. go ahead. install IE8 with the windows update service disabled (startup type disabled as well! go to start>run>type “services.msc”) and leave the tick mark on the “install updates” section, have it install the updates, reboot and whoopie you get the BSOD! This triggers it becuase since the service is on startup and it needs to still update before windows is loaded all the way it does this becuase the service is not started and the update process depends on it.
I can’t believe you cannot get this through your little head and then tell me that I am not experiencing that. My tech illiterate mom got this through her head the first time! (since she almost did the same thing I did!) 😈 😈
apple products are just a plastic playtoy for the rich. Overpriced and overhyped.
There is very little difference hardware wise to a “mac”
The only differences lie in that macs use EFI (Extensive Firmware Interface) Instead of BIOS and they use GUID partition table instead of MBR for the hard drives. Ever since they switched to intel they have been like this.
You can even run OSX on a PC with some hacking (ie, Hackintosh)
all they are is a proprietary software company that happend to put thier brand on a PC now.
Think different? Not really.
The BSOD happened AFTER I restarted becuase to complete the IE8 setup (and complete the updates install I did not want) you have to restart your computer. (or you would be using IE7 untill it did restart.
I restarted and I got a BSOD after the server 2008 animated bar with the back BG. I could NOT get into command line even!
This was also cuased by the updates needing the service to be under startup and since the service was not started in startup it had the exception!
Don’t tell me what I experienced. I did not say I got it while gaming. Nor was it caused by nvidia driver, as a matter of fact the nvidia driver I had at the time was very stable and nice. Don’t you start on this crap.I also tried to use the DVD to do the recovery thing but the command line did not work after I rebooted to go back into the OS.
I had to reformat to get my system back and running.
Now stop trolling me AGAIN!
Yesh I do have my partitions spread out like my OS has one, my apps have one my general data has one and my architecture stuff has one. I also have a backup partition exclusivley for linux recovery since it also has memory tools and diagnostics, however it has trouble with NTFS 🙁 but it’s a good distro but Its currently not installed I will install it this winter if They have updated the NTFS tool. I will find the name of it shortly once I get my old favs sorted out.
If it did detect a problem or conflict it would let you know more often or something that would be nice.
I ocne had windows update service disabled (for gaming so the update thing didn’t nag me or have forced updates on me) and ran the IE8 setup and accidentally left the update checkbox ticked and I ran the installer, it updated and when it told me to restart I did and got the system_service_exception BSOD and I had to reformat to get back in business.
Why couldn’t the update software detect the service wasn’t running and say this: “setup could not proceed with updates becuase the service is disabled. Please start the service and try again” kinda things! If this happened it would make this problem history. Self learning systems that know what you do and act accordingly.
windows server 2008 R1 release date: February 4th RTM/February 27th,2008 Retail
windows server 2008 R2 release date: July 22, 2009 RTM/October 22nd,2009 Retailwow not much apart. I think they could have done better with R2 and added more recovery options. R1 doesn’t have them ether.
I once had a system_service_exception error BSOD (from a bad driver) and it was unrecoverable. I had to reformat and reinstall. It was a pain. I couldn’t even get into safe mode to recover it.
I wish that there was a way to reset services or have a recovery mode to fix the problems. Or at least make it so we can access safe mode!
If they would make more self healing features and would have delayed the release date till Q1/2010 it would have been more feasible for me.
If R2 was, in fact a more hardened OS You think that by now even at R1 they would have had more self healing features. That would have been a real nail in the coffin for linux. at least linux is more recoverable.
Ok THE main reason I am also sticking with R1 is I have 2 full legal copies purchased by my company. I do not run a trial or dreamspark like most people on this OS that use it for workstation. My company I work for does not think the changes in R2 are justified purchasing the upgrades. They even pointed out that the OSes only came out little over a year from eachother and not much has changed in R2 to really bother with. All they did was change the UI, removed and changed some features, and they released it. I think they rushed in 7 just to save thier hides from the vista letdown. It was going to be called blackcomb and have tons of awesome features that were never going to be put in, Like WINFS (future storage) and a multitude of networking options. it was not going to originally come out till 2011. Vista is what Longhorn used to be. even LH was going to have craploads more features then vista ever had. it seems as if MS tends to rush out OSes just to make more money.
Just becuase somethings new doesn’t mean its best.
if builders were building new houses that did not have kitchens in them, for example out of the stupid assumption “everyone goes out to eat and never cooks anymore”, but had a spot for plug in hybrids, and a skate ramp would you rather buy a new extremely expensive house that was boring and white or buy the cheaper old one with better quality fixtures and details that has a kitchen and put in the other two features yourself?
the big breaker is AION and BL and assassin’s creed. try those games out and I’ll know whether the 191’s do this on R2. I used to have access to an R2 machine at a relative’s house but they are moving so I cannot use it. I cannot modify the partitions here eather. I got this huge project and I really cannot reconfig OSes becuase of this.
Other have reported R2 to work with AION and the 191’s just fine, however those were users of GF9800GTs and anything from NV that was made before the 200 series cards. any of the 200 series cards and the NF200 chipsets are affected greatly and have caused the cards to physically die on them.
Oh and JF-I have a little word of advice-Just becuase someone does not speak on these forums very articulately and writes a novel on how windows 7 is the god OS does not mean they are not technical or stupid. OK! If you are here on a server forum telling us that windows 7 should be used over R1/R2 then you should not be here. Go to a windows 7 forums and gloat there and stuff. You came here and questioned us using R1/R2.
I have no problems with R2 personally I like how fast it is and the general performance, however I was just stating that many convenience features were removed. if someone stole your icemaker from your fridge would you be mad? I would! I am sticking with R1 out of the sake of some software not working becuase of removed DLL files and also the loss of the features I mentioned, yes I could live without them, however it would just be a pain for me to go out of my way and reformat my hard drive and go with another slightly better OS. I would only do it if it were major and absolutely needed.
meh @ JF
@ JC you are actually stable with the 191.x drivers from nvidia?! OMG!
fallout3 crashed all the time for me. I just gave up on it.
but borderlands works great.
